Question about farming green weapons from bosses.(also melee wep question) - Guild Wars Forums

KingAlkaiser · Aug 05, 2012, 03:48 PM // 15:48

hello i am finally on my way of putting together a 7 hero team i am currently looking to get myself some weapons for my heroes specially my dervish which i can not find any good merchant to sell me some and i have no clue what to look for also.

I am planning to farm:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Asterius_the_Mighty

I read that i can run SoS spirit spam with my necro because a party of heroes would net me lower drop rate. Is this statement still true?

my question)

1)what are the odds of getting these weapons? are they worth putting time into getting?

2)do you really get higher drop rate for solo other than group(heroes and henchmen)

3) what melee weapon do people recommend for melee heroes? I have 2 VoS(vow of strength) dervish who i will use for markway but guide says to use zealot or the energy drain scythe; but the -energy seems bad isn't better to get the life steal one for more damage or armor penetration?

any information or tips on farming up a decent weapon is appreciated.

Shalazar · Aug 05, 2012, 04:09 PM // 16:09

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Originally Posted by KingAlkaiser

hello i am finally on my way of putting together a 7 hero team i am currently looking to get myself some weapons for my heroes specially my dervish which i can not find any good merchant to sell me some and i have no clue what to look for also.

I am planning to farm:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Asterius_the_Mighty

I read that i can run SoS spirit spam with my necro because a party of heroes would net me lower drop rate. Is this statement still true?

my question)

1)what are the odds of getting these weapons? are they worth putting time into getting?

2)do you really get higher drop rate for solo other than group(heroes and henchmen)

3) what melee weapon do people recommend for melee heroes? I have 2 VoS(vow of strength) dervish who i will use for markway but guide says to use zealot or the energy drain scythe; but the -energy seems bad isn't better to get the life steal one for more damage or armor penetration?

any information or tips on farming up a decent weapon is appreciated.

Pretty much no farms are worth the time, you will get the money much faster power trading than playing the game.

akelarumi · Aug 05, 2012, 04:22 PM // 16:22

In GW green drops aren't directly better then other drops. So you can make a weapon that does exactly the same. See the replica section on your scythe's wiki page.http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Asterius%27_Scythe

It's very uncommon to farm a certain green weapon. If you persist in doing it, for every counts that heroes share in the drops. So if boss x has a 5% change of dropping his green weapon, with one hero the change it will drop for you will be 2,5% and with a full party the change will be 0,625% it will drop for you.

Lyv · Aug 05, 2012, 06:24 PM // 18:24

Easiest way would be to kill anything but the boss with your heroes, then flag them far away and kill the boss by yourself. I did it for Hanuku's focus, it worked quite well because the boss was really close to the entrance.

Although in most cases, it's not worth the time investment.
If you really want to upgrade your heroes' weapons, try to look for a weapon crafter instead : http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Weaponsmith
Any max damage one will be enough, the rest is nitpicking imo.

KingAlkaiser · Aug 05, 2012, 08:10 PM // 20:10

thank you guys for the help and reply i appreciate it a lot.

The farming for green its a lot of bs actually i have killed the boss about 10 times and no drop do hard mode bosses drop it more often?

-i assumed if you in party with heroes and henchmen they share your loot no matter how far apart you are in a map is this true or not?

-I also wish i could just get collector weapon but I don't have the money to purchase grips/etc and shouting for them would take longer than anything.

Captain Bulldozer · Aug 05, 2012, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by KingAlkaiser

I am planning to farm:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Asterius_the_Mighty

I read that i can run SoS spirit spam with my necro because a party of heroes would net me lower drop rate. Is this statement still true?

Yes, though there may be other more efficient farming builds for your class. Check around (PvX wiki is a decent place to start)

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Originally Posted by KingAlkaiser

1)what are the odds of getting these weapons? are they worth putting time into getting?

The odds aren't usually statistically known, but generally they are rather low. Greens make good hero weapons if you get them, but there are easier ways to get hero weapons than farming greens. One thing you could do is finish each of the campaigns and EotN for end game green weapons. Also, the bonus mission pack and various content expansions (WiK, WoC, etc.) are good ways to get hero weapons. There is a quest in boreal station that rewards you with a max damage weapon of your choice as well, and the quest takes around 30 seconds to do.

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Originally Posted by KingAlkaiser

2)do you really get higher drop rate for solo other than group(heroes and henchmen)

Yes, solo farming is much more profitable than farming with either heroes/henchmen or a group of humans. However, if all other party characters are out of range (greyed out) the drops will have the same effect.

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Originally Posted by KingAlkaiser

3) what melee weapon do people recommend for melee heroes? I have 2 VoS(vow of strength) dervish who i will use for markway but guide says to use zealot or the energy drain scythe; but the -energy seems bad isn't better to get the life steal one for more damage or armor penetration?

any information or tips on farming up a decent weapon is appreciated.

Vampiric and Zealous weapons both are good choices. A lot of people will say one is better than another, but it really depends on whether you're going for DPS or to maintain energy with IAS skills and autoattacks. Generally, though, melee NPCs are not as good as casters, due to melee AI and pathing issues.

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Originally Posted by Lyv

If you really want to upgrade your heroes' weapons, try to look for a weapon crafter instead : http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Weaponsmith
Any max damage one will be enough, the rest is nitpicking imo.

Hey, its your dime and everything, but almost all weaponsmiths are an enormous waste of money and materials. Max damage weapons can be obtained in many easy ways without having to spend 5k+ on them. Most GOLD weapons aren't even worth 5k. The ONLY time I'd recommend using a weaponsmith is if one makes a particular skin you have to have (for whatever reason) and you are having trouble getting it anywhere else.

Also, the upgrades definitely can make a difference to how effective a build operates, so its not just nitpicking. Some builds ONLY function as intended with weapons that are modded a certain way.

Dar Drakor · Aug 06, 2012, 05:15 AM // 05:15

Agree with Captain B...using weaponsmiths makes little sense as all max weps has a base cost of 5k and then on top of that you'd have to consider the cost of the actual mats to make it (5k is technically just what the weaponsmith charges to make the blue item) and for many/most the need to add inscriptions and/or mods to them to make them real functional.

In general, it doesn't really make sense to repeatedly try to farm a green that might not cost more than 5k. You'd be better off spending the time it takes to do this finding more lucrative ways to make money and then just buy a satisfactory green from someone in Kamadan.

Just go through the list of greens (you can google/wiki the entire list of all greens), find the one's you want, make your money elsewhere and then go try and buy them from other players. You can also post a thread in the BUY forum here with a list of what you want and you should get plenty of hits from people that have em and are willing to sell them to you.

projectmercy · Aug 07, 2012, 12:16 AM // 00:16

As an alternative, when I was initially gearing out my heroes, I basically used weapons bought from the books you got from the Bonus Mission pack. If your copy of guild wars came with that, it's an easy way to get R9 copies of any weapon or off-hand you could want. You still have to kit them out with inscriptions and upgrades, but that's generally not as hard unless you need rarer things.

Winner · Aug 07, 2012, 07:40 AM // 07:40

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Originally Posted by KingAlkaiser

-i assumed if you in party with heroes and henchmen they share your loot no matter how far apart you are in a map is this true or not?

No, that is not true. If they are flagged away where you can't see them on your radar any more (their names are greyed-out on party thing) then they won't share the drops, it will count as you being alone. In theory the best, and the easiest way would be, if you do it in hard mode and get boss on very low health, and then flag the heroes away and just finish him off (you need a working build for that though).

Aug 05, 2012, 03:48 PM // 15:48	#1
KingAlkaiser Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2010 Guild: One Shot Killers Profession: N/Me	Question about farming green weapons from bosses.(also melee wep question) hello i am finally on my way of putting together a 7 hero team i am currently looking to get myself some weapons for my heroes specially my dervish which i can not find any good merchant to sell me some and i have no clue what to look for also. I am planning to farm: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Asterius_the_Mighty I read that i can run SoS spirit spam with my necro because a party of heroes would net me lower drop rate. Is this statement still true? my question) 1)what are the odds of getting these weapons? are they worth putting time into getting? 2)do you really get higher drop rate for solo other than group(heroes and henchmen) 3) what melee weapon do people recommend for melee heroes? I have 2 VoS(vow of strength) dervish who i will use for markway but guide says to use zealot or the energy drain scythe; but the -energy seems bad isn't better to get the life steal one for more damage or armor penetration? any information or tips on farming up a decent weapon is appreciated.

Aug 05, 2012, 04:22 PM // 16:22	#3
akelarumi Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2009 Profession: E/	In GW green drops aren't directly better then other drops. So you can make a weapon that does exactly the same. See the replica section on your scythe's wiki page.http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Asterius%27_Scythe It's very uncommon to farm a certain green weapon. If you persist in doing it, for every counts that heroes share in the drops. So if boss x has a 5% change of dropping his green weapon, with one hero the change it will drop for you will be 2,5% and with a full party the change will be 0,625% it will drop for you. Last edited by akelarumi; Aug 05, 2012 at 04:26 PM // 16:26..

Aug 06, 2012, 05:15 AM // 05:15	#7
Dar Drakor Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2008 Guild: Ancient Dragon Disciples [ADD] Profession: N/A	Agree with Captain B...using weaponsmiths makes little sense as all max weps has a base cost of 5k and then on top of that you'd have to consider the cost of the actual mats to make it (5k is technically just what the weaponsmith charges to make the blue item) and for many/most the need to add inscriptions and/or mods to them to make them real functional. In general, it doesn't really make sense to repeatedly try to farm a green that might not cost more than 5k. You'd be better off spending the time it takes to do this finding more lucrative ways to make money and then just buy a satisfactory green from someone in Kamadan. Just go through the list of greens (you can google/wiki the entire list of all greens), find the one's you want, make your money elsewhere and then go try and buy them from other players. You can also post a thread in the BUY forum here with a list of what you want and you should get plenty of hits from people that have em and are willing to sell them to you. Last edited by Dar Drakor; Aug 06, 2012 at 05:20 AM // 05:20..

Aug 05, 2012, 06:24 PM // 18:24	#4
Lyv Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2011	Easiest way would be to kill anything but the boss with your heroes, then flag them far away and kill the boss by yourself. I did it for Hanuku's focus, it worked quite well because the boss was really close to the entrance. Although in most cases, it's not worth the time investment. If you really want to upgrade your heroes' weapons, try to look for a weapon crafter instead : http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Weaponsmith Any max damage one will be enough, the rest is nitpicking imo.

Aug 05, 2012, 08:10 PM // 20:10	#5
KingAlkaiser Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2010 Guild: One Shot Killers Profession: N/Me	thank you guys for the help and reply i appreciate it a lot. The farming for green its a lot of bs actually i have killed the boss about 10 times and no drop do hard mode bosses drop it more often? -i assumed if you in party with heroes and henchmen they share your loot no matter how far apart you are in a map is this true or not? -I also wish i could just get collector weapon but I don't have the money to purchase grips/etc and shouting for them would take longer than anything.

Aug 07, 2012, 12:16 AM // 00:16	#8
projectmercy Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2012	As an alternative, when I was initially gearing out my heroes, I basically used weapons bought from the books you got from the Bonus Mission pack. If your copy of guild wars came with that, it's an easy way to get R9 copies of any weapon or off-hand you could want. You still have to kit them out with inscriptions and upgrades, but that's generally not as hard unless you need rarer things.